who made this group? Is it dead?

[Mark]

just curious,
as an owner of Yamahahahaha bike.

[Venture Rider]

Post by Mark
just curious,
as an owner of Yamahahahaha bike.

There's nobody here.

[Mark]

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark
just curious,
as an owner of Yamahahahaha bike.

There's nobody here.
--
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Well you are, and I am. Explain your sig, Loud Pipes? I like loud pipes, I
figure that most of the auto and truck drivers can't see very well, I like
to let them hear me also.

[Venture Rider]

Post by Mark

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark
just curious,
as an owner of Yamahahahaha bike.

There's nobody here.
--
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Well you are, and I am. Explain your sig, Loud Pipes? I like loud pipes, I
figure that most of the auto and truck drivers can't see very well, I like
to let them hear me also.

The AMA and a lot of motorcycle associations around the world agree
with my statement. Basically, people get annoyed and pass legislation
against bikes. Towns have barred bikes from their cores, there is talk
of (shudder) homologation. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter
what *you* think. It's what the general public thinks that counts.

In the end, you have two options: Run a quiet bike, or try to convince
Mom and Pop that loud bikes (and cars) is a good thing. Good luck with
that.

[Mark]

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark

Post by Venture Rider
--
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Well you are, and I am. Explain your sig, Loud Pipes? I like loud pipes, I
figure that most of the auto and truck drivers can't see very well, I like
to let them hear me also.

The AMA and a lot of motorcycle associations around the world agree
with my statement. Basically, people get annoyed and pass legislation
against bikes. Towns have barred bikes from their cores, there is talk
of (shudder) homologation. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter
what *you* think. It's what the general public thinks that counts.
In the end, you have two options: Run a quiet bike, or try to convince
Mom and Pop that loud bikes (and cars) is a good thing. Good luck with
that.
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Just wondering, I'm sure a lot of organizations would agree, and point
taken, but I'm still loud and heard, I think it is part of what keeps me
alive and safe.

[Venture Rider]

Post by Mark

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark

Post by Venture Rider
--
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Well you are, and I am. Explain your sig, Loud Pipes? I like loud

pipes, I

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark
figure that most of the auto and truck drivers can't see very well, I

like

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark
to let them hear me also.

The AMA and a lot of motorcycle associations around the world agree
with my statement. Basically, people get annoyed and pass legislation
against bikes. Towns have barred bikes from their cores, there is talk
of (shudder) homologation. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter
what *you* think. It's what the general public thinks that counts.
In the end, you have two options: Run a quiet bike, or try to convince
Mom and Pop that loud bikes (and cars) is a good thing. Good luck with
that.
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Just wondering, I'm sure a lot of organizations would agree, and point
taken, but I'm still loud and heard, I think it is part of what keeps me
alive and safe.

Get an air horn!

But seriously, most of the sound from your exhaust comes out the back.
The guy about to cut you off is out front. Besides, with all the
stereos and cell phones, and people with AC and their windows rolled
up, I don't think it matters.

[Mark]

Post by Venture Rider
But seriously, most of the sound from your exhaust comes out the back.
The guy about to cut you off is out front. Besides, with all the
stereos and cell phones, and people with AC and their windows rolled
up, I don't think it matters.
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

I have an air horn, which I never use. or at least try not to use, ever. I
am just at the legal limit, here in Canada, and like to keep others aware I
am cruising by. The ones that cut me off, and it seems to happen often,
come from all over, just like to he heard and seem. A fair number of auto
drivers seem to have a real blind spot 360 degrees around outside of the
windows. I've been biking for over 30 years and had bikes that were quiet,
I had a BMW that you couldn't hear even sitting on it, and have found auto
drivers would attract to it. I've never been seriously hit, but I'm very
cautious and concerned of such.
I recently had a problem and the bike is now in the shop, hopefully get it
back on Monday/Tuesday. The bike would choke up and sputter, backfiring
often. Now this caused concern in a predominantly Muslim area of the city,
and people were ducking for cover, luckily the bike shop was not far down
the road. That kind of attention I don't need. I felt really bad passing
the "quiet" zone by the hospital.

[Russell Watson]

Post by Mark

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark

Post by Venture Rider
--
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Well you are, and I am. Explain your sig, Loud Pipes? I like loud

pipes, I

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark
figure that most of the auto and truck drivers can't see very well, I

like

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Mark
to let them hear me also.

The AMA and a lot of motorcycle associations around the world agree
with my statement. Basically, people get annoyed and pass legislation
against bikes. Towns have barred bikes from their cores, there is talk
of (shudder) homologation. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter
what *you* think. It's what the general public thinks that counts.
In the end, you have two options: Run a quiet bike, or try to convince
Mom and Pop that loud bikes (and cars) is a good thing. Good luck with
that.
Loud Pipes Risk Rights.

Just wondering, I'm sure a lot of organizations would agree, and point
taken, but I'm still loud and heard, I think it is part of what keeps me
alive and safe.

This an old thread but since I just hit this group for the first time
I thought I would weigh in with personal experience: I was riding on
the inside lane of a 4-lane highway and going a bit faster than the
traffic in the outside lane. Just as I was off the corner of a guy's
bumper he put on his left blinker and started coming over, but
suddenly went back into his lane. When I pulled up by him at the next
light he rolled his window down and said "I couldn't see you coming
because of where you were, but just as started over I heard you and
got back over as fast as a I could. Hope I didn't cause you any
problems". At that point it occurred to me if I had the stock exhaust
on my bike he would have most likely ran me off the road.

[Venture Rider]

Post by Russell Watson
This an old thread but since I just hit this group for the first time
I thought I would weigh in with personal experience: I was riding on
the inside lane of a 4-lane highway and going a bit faster than the
traffic in the outside lane. Just as I was off the corner of a guy's
bumper he put on his left blinker and started coming over, but
suddenly went back into his lane. When I pulled up by him at the next
light he rolled his window down and said "I couldn't see you coming
because of where you were, but just as started over I heard you and
got back over as fast as a I could. Hope I didn't cause you any
problems". At that point it occurred to me if I had the stock exhaust
on my bike he would have most likely ran me off the road.

Noisy bikes should not compensate for riding in someone's blind spot.
Besides, what if the guy's stereo had been blaring? It's better to be
seen than heard.

PS: See! This group is alive!

[Russell Watson]

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:57:42 -0500, Venture Rider

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Russell Watson
This an old thread but since I just hit this group for the first time
I thought I would weigh in with personal experience: I was riding on
the inside lane of a 4-lane highway and going a bit faster than the
traffic in the outside lane. Just as I was off the corner of a guy's
bumper he put on his left blinker and started coming over, but
suddenly went back into his lane. When I pulled up by him at the next
light he rolled his window down and said "I couldn't see you coming
because of where you were, but just as started over I heard you and
got back over as fast as a I could. Hope I didn't cause you any
problems". At that point it occurred to me if I had the stock exhaust
on my bike he would have most likely ran me off the road.

Noisy bikes should not compensate for riding in someone's blind spot.
Besides, what if the guy's stereo had been blaring? It's better to be
seen than heard.
PS: See! This group is alive!

I wasn't "riding in his blind spot", simply moving through it in the
act of passing him. Quite impossible to NOT do when you think about
it. All you can do is not stay there longer than you need to. And
while there are dozens of "what if" type variables that "may" have
altered the scenario the fact is that he heard me coming. All the "may
have been" doesn't alter that.

[Venture Rider]

Post by Russell Watson
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:57:42 -0500, Venture Rider

Post by Venture Rider

Post by Russell Watson
This an old thread but since I just hit this group for the first time
I thought I would weigh in with personal experience: I was riding on
the inside lane of a 4-lane highway and going a bit faster than the
traffic in the outside lane. Just as I was off the corner of a guy's
bumper he put on his left blinker and started coming over, but
suddenly went back into his lane. When I pulled up by him at the next
light he rolled his window down and said "I couldn't see you coming
because of where you were, but just as started over I heard you and
got back over as fast as a I could. Hope I didn't cause you any
problems". At that point it occurred to me if I had the stock exhaust
on my bike he would have most likely ran me off the road.

Noisy bikes should not compensate for riding in someone's blind spot.
Besides, what if the guy's stereo had been blaring? It's better to be
seen than heard.
PS: See! This group is alive!

I wasn't "riding in his blind spot", simply moving through it in the
act of passing him. Quite impossible to NOT do when you think about
it. All you can do is not stay there longer than you need to. And
while there are dozens of "what if" type variables that "may" have
altered the scenario the fact is that he heard me coming. All the "may
have been" doesn't alter that.

Don't mind me. I just hate loud pipes with a passion.